Curse

MithranArkanere · Feb 07, 2008, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Blah. Clearing an entire area in Hard Mode should be rewarded much more than making that cheap FFF, because it requires much more effort and time. That's the more important truth here.

odly · Feb 07, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

I think they should add a new tier at 20 mil AND nerf FFF. no more mapping the points before taking the quest.

That should fix it.

Actually : I think they should nerf FFF and lower the tiers to SS/LB level * 5 (taking into account multiple characters.

The Meth · Feb 07, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Its ridiculous how the only real way to get the title is FFing, usually with heroes. Think what the champion title would be like if you could get it 2x faster flagging heroes around isle of the nameless then actually GvGing. IMHO the FFing quests should be nerfed and AB/Bounties should be buffed.

MithranArkanere · Feb 07, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

The proble it's not how long it takes.

The problem is what do you get comparing methods.

In EotN, other than completing books, vanquishing an area is the best source of points. So it's completely senseles that after killing EVERY SINGLE MONSTER in one area in hard mode, hich may take from 30min..2hours:30min, you get WAAAAY less faction than making that silly FFF.

Undivine · Feb 07, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Guys, stop flaming. Even if you actually have something to say in your post, I'll delete it whole unless you say it without sarcasm and insults. If you can't make your arguements without insulting eachother then this thread will be closed and those envolved may get a temp ban to cool off.

kerpall · Feb 08, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

My post got deleted, well it was long, and repeptitive anyways, heres summary (no reason to delete this one! I'll keep it clean and short)
just like to list a couple quotes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burning Blade

I am r9 by dedicating to AB for many many months. From R9 to R12 I don't see I will possibly achieve it. Even R10 is nearly impossible for me now.
So /signed

AB needs better rewards.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Meth

Its ridiculous how the only real way to get the title is FFing, usually with heroes. Think what the champion title would be like if you could get it 2x faster flagging heroes around isle of the nameless then actually GvGing. IMHO the FFing quests should be nerfed and AB/Bounties should be buffed.

My previous posts summed up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

The problem* it's not how long it takes.

The problem is what do you get comparing methods.

In EotN, other than completing books, vanquishing an area is the best source of points. So it's completely senseles that after killing EVERY SINGLE MONSTER in one area in hard mode, hich may take from 30min..2hours:30min, you get WAAAAY less faction than making that silly FFF.

Current Methods are inefficient , aside from the repetetive Hfff, which isn't even do-able for people with just Factions.

@ Orange Milk, please keep this a debate, and not a Name-Calling session.

Dobermann · Feb 08, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

yeah wtvr, i dont do pve atm but i might consider taking it up

dont affect me but

/sign

Uber Mass · Feb 08, 2008, 12:41 PM // 12:41

First balance the FFF farm first then talk about other rewards imo...

You can farm way more kurzick factions then Luxon faction by doing FFF..

until then /notsigned

Cebe · Feb 08, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Poll Added - enjoy.

kerpall · Feb 08, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange Milk

There are SIX different ways to earn faction. Just because one way is not working or you or you feel it "can't" be done by everyone is no reason for a change, try another way.

1# AB -Under Rewarded, Grindfest

2# Quests - not enough provided to gain any tier of the title

3# Challenge missions - Empty, no one to do it with. It's just as bad as farming Hfff.

4# Jade quarry / fort aspenwood - Again empty, unfortunately you need Other People to enter mission too

5# Vanquish - Under rewarded, extremely time consuming. Needs to go onto GW:en system

6# Hfff- Not accessable to everyone, huge grindfest. Should be nerfed on Kurzick side. Heck, people who origionally only have Factions, cant even Hfff. It's a disadvantage to people with Just factions.

MagmaRed · Feb 08, 2008, 03:53 PM // 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by seut

I would like to see Anet adding the random bonuses from EotN (Boss Bounty, Rampage, etc.) to the Faction blessings.
Faction gain from HM PvE should be on par with FFF.

Agreed. Leave the 5 points for NM and 10 points for HM, but supply bonuses based on number of kills. It wouldn't have to be identical to the GW:EN bonuses, but based on those. Instead of every 25 kills, it could be every 50. Instead of a rank increase, since there isn't a rank setup for Kurz/Lux, just supply a bonus amount of Faction. Boss bounty would be good, and Rampage would too.

/signed for partial

Orange Milk · Feb 08, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Show me a title that is not a time consuming/grind fest please

There are none, just because this one happens to take longer it should not be changed, it's a much higher max BECAUSE it's account wide AND PvP or PvE can do it. No other "real" title is set up like that (Lucky, unlucky, and gamer I think are the only other titles like that, but I don't count those as "real")

If you say "no one there" use Friends list, Guild Mates, Alliance mates. You can use those folks for FFF and AB aswell. In fact making a solid team build for Challenge Missions/AB/Jade Quarry/Fort Aspenwood/FFF and using real people will make the grind "easier" and faster than Pug/Heros.(not to mention less boring) People that are Factions Only may not have Hero's, but they a F List/Guild/Allaiance. You see, again more options than just "please make easy"

All the tools are there, no matter how many campains you own, you just have to take the time to use them.

AB is not under rewarded, Depending on the map you can earn over 2500 faction in one match, win and your over 1500 on the average. and before you say "Yeah, only if you win" See above about getting a solid team build.

Also, I must retract a previous statment (although that post was deleted so who cares) There are 7 ways to gain faction

#7. Bribe a priest - Yeah that will take forever and you will go broke, but every little bit helps